FULL BOARD MEETING MINUTES
Public Environmental
Information Center
Saturday, April 20, 2002


The Fernald Citizens Advisory Board met from 8:30 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. on Saturday, April 20, 2002, at the Public Information Center

Members Present
Jim Bierer
Susan Brechbill
Kathryn Brown
Sandy Butterfield
Marvin Clawson
Lisa Crawford
Lou Doll
Pam Dunn
Jane Harper
Gene Jablonowski
Steve McCracken
Tom Schneider
Robert Tabor
Tom Wagner
Gene Willeke

Members Absent
French Bell
Lisa Blair
Blain Burton
Steve DePoe
Graham Mitchell

Designated Federal Official
Gary Stegner

Perspectives Group Staff
Douglas Sarno
David Bidwell

Fluor Fernald Staff
Sue Walpole

Approximately 10 spectators also attended the meeting, including members of the public and representatives from the Department of Energy and Fluor Fernald.

Call to Order
Jim Bierer called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. The minutes from the March 2002 meeting were accepted with the two corrections:

1.) Jane Harper attended the meeting.

2.) Gary Stegner committed to meet with committee members to discuss the relocation of the Public Environmental Information Center.

General Remarks and Announcements
Jim thanked the FEMP staff for providing a site tour for the SSAB Chairs meeting on April 11. The feedback he received was positive and people were excited by what has been accomplished at the site. Jim also thanked Fluor Fernald for sponsoring a reception for the chairs that evening.

Susan Brechbill announced that she is retiring from DOE, effective May 3, after thirty-four years of service. Susan expressed fondness for Fernald and stated that the FCAB is one of the most progressive advisory boards in the DOE Complex. Susan’s successor has not yet been determined.

Steve McCracken stated that implementation of long-term stewardship is underway at the Welden Springs site. He urged the FCAB to keep an eye on Welden Springs, because it is likely to influence what happens at Fernald regarding stewardship. DOE is not writing a definitive policy regarding long-term stewardship, but will instead rely on precedence set at individual sites. Jim stated that Dave Geiser presented many details of the Welden Springs stewardship plan at the SSAB Chairs meeting. Doug Sarno explained that the Stewardship Committee would review the stewardship criteria that were presented by Dave.

SSAB Chairs Meeting
Jim reported that the SSAB chairs met in Cincinnati on April 11 to 13. The meeting focused on the FY03 EM budget, the Top-to-Bottom Review, long-term stewardship, and public involvement.

Jim reported that Gene Schmitt explained the Top-to-Bottom Review and reviewed the resulting proposed budget for Environmental Management. The proposed base EM budget is $5.9 billion. An $800 million fund has been proposed as a supplement for accelerating risk reduction and site closure. An additional $300 million may be available. Overall, the Chairs were not pleased with the review and its impact on the budget. Lisa Crawford expressed skepticism that cleanup sites would receive those funds. Susan cautioned the group that the revised baseline for Fernald is based on receiving a portion of the $800 million supplement.

Jim further reported that the Chairs approved and signed the statements developed at the SSAB Groundwater Workshop.

Jim also reported that the Chairs discussed public participation and the role of SSABs. In general, the Chairs were concerned that the impact of SSAB recommendations is poorly tracked. He stated that some Chairs were upset that Jessie Roberson did not attend the Chairs meeting. Jim Brannon of New Mexico will draft a letter to Roberson expressing the willingness of the SSAB Chairs to provide input on Complex-wide decisions to DOE.

Lisa Crawford stated that she felt is was inappropriate for the DOE headquarters presenters at the SSAB Chairs meeting to place blame on a past DOE employee.

Doug expressed concern that Dave Geiser may have painted too positive a picture of stewardship at Welden Springs. He suggested that some FCAB members visit Welden Springs in mid-summer. Steve urged the group to meet with all of the site’s stakeholder groups. Susan cautioned the group against relying too heavily on another site as a model for stewardship.

Jim noted that Gene Schmitt’s presentation called for development of a common vision for risk reduction. Jim stated that a similar effort should be instigated to develop a common vision for long-term stewardship.

Doug announced that DOE personnel attending the Chairs meeting indicated that Roberson intends to renew the national SSAB charter, which expires in May.

In the near future, Roberson may schedule a video conference with the SSABs. The next Chairs meeting will be in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, October 14 to 16. The next SSAB Workshop will focus on transuranic waste and transportation issues and will be held in New Mexico in early 2003.

2006 Acceleration and FY03 Budget
Steve announced that the revised baseline for 2006 closure has been presented to DOE. The baseline package included the letters of support from the FCAB and others, as well as a letter of commitment between DOE and Fluor Fernald. Pam Dunn reminded Steve that the FCAB requested a response to the concerns presented in its letter of support.

Dennis Carr stated that representatives from Fluor Fernald and DOE met with Jessie Roberson on April 12, uninterrupted for almost an hour, and that the meeting had gone well. He feels that Roberson now fully understands the site and the scope of work needed to reach closure. Dennis reported that Roberson offered assistance in the NRC license modification process being pursued for the silos projects. Dennis reviewed the information that was presented to Roberson, which included baseline budgets of $324 million and an alternate $350 million. An independent review team, currently examining the site proposal, will provide final funding recommendations to Roberson. A report is expected from this team by April 30.

Dennis clarified some points from his presentation to Roberson. Lisa Crawford stated that some wording in the presentation could create false impressions at headquarters. Members also expressed concern that the revised baseline had been presented to Roberson before the completed version was presented to the FCAB.

Pam Dunn inquired about funding for long-term stewardship, which prompted a general FCAB discussion regarding the lack of clarity for long-term stewardship funding. Steve and Susan reported that while there have been some efforts to identify funding, there are still many questions. Steve stated that preparations for stewardship should come from project funds, but specific funding needs have not been well defined. FCAB members expressed concern that Congress and the public do not understand that funds will be required beyond FY06 to complete the remediation and manage the site. One significant issue is the proper organization and disposition of records and photographs. This issue will be a significant focus of the June FCAB meeting.

Silos Projects
Ray Carradi reported that several issues of concern were identified at the April 9 Monthly Progress Briefing, which focused on the silos projects:

1) status of LRAD monitoring technology,

2) use of IP2 "super sacks" for Silo 3 wastes,

3) pretreatment of Silo 3 waste,

4) ROD and NRC license modifications, and

5) the build-design approach.

LRAD
In the past, FCAB members have inquired about the potential use of personal monitoring technology currently under development, called LRAD, for the Silo 3 project. Dennis distributed an initial assessment from Stan Waligora; a Certified Health Physicist hired by Fluor to evaluate the potential use of the LRAD personal monitoring system for the Fernald cleanup. Dennis explained that the major risks associated with Silo 3 materials are inhalation and ingestion of particulate. He reviewed worker safety measures that would be in place during the removal and packaging of Silo 3 material. These include ventilation controls in removal and packaging areas, personal respiratory systems, protective outer clothing, showers, and use of the best available monitoring technology to ensure there is not a spread of contaminant. LRAD is intended to be a more sensitive technology for detecting any radioactive particulate that may remain on a worker after protective clothing has been removed. Waligora’s initial assessment is that the technology would not be commercially available for use in the Silo 3 project. Following discussion, the FCAB agreed that Waligora should finish his analysis, but that additional development funds for the technology should come from EM50 rather than the site budget.

IP2 "Super Sack" Packaging for Silo 3 Waste
Ray stated that he recently learned there may be a misperception that the use of IP2 "Super Sack" packages for the transport of Silo 3 waste is only being pursued to lower project costs. Ray explained that the site feels that these sacks are a better way to meet DOT requirements for dusting and radon containment. Ray reviewed the testing requirements for the sacks and stated that these sacks must meet the same drop, puncture, and pressure requirements as other IP2 packaging. In addition, the sacks would be placed in Sea-Land containers for shipment, which would further reduce puncture risks. Ray further reported that these sacks have been successfully used at sites with similar materials. If sent to Envirocare by rail as planned, the bags would be lifted from Sea-Land containers by straps and placed directly in the disposal cell.

Each sack would contain a plastic liner, with a fill spout that can be heat-sealed. This liner has been tested for its ability to contain radon. The group discussed the importance of using a surrogate material to test the system for filling and sealing of the bags. Lou Doll suggested using a traceable chemical in the surrogate in order to check for small leaks. Ray indicated that the site has requested funding for this kind of testing.

Ray reported that transportation disasters are computer modeled. The modeled results of a worst-case scenario (total dispersal of the contents of a bag) remained within the allowable levels for human health risk. The assumptions used for this model are currently being reviewed and a sensitivity analysis is being conducted. Ray further reported that materials handling experts indicated that the Silo 3 materials settle quickly, so the airborne dispersal that was modeled in the worst-case scenario is unlikely.

Doug requested that Ray bring any available Super Sack performance data and illustrative videos to the June FCAB meeting.

Pretreatment for Silo 3 Material
At the Progress Briefing and other meetings in the past, FCAB members have discussed options to prevent the dispersal of Silo 3 materials through pretreatment. Ray reported that the site has asked the materials handling experts to assess substances on the market that could be used to prevent dispersal of dust. Because the pneumatic removal of material will aerate it somewhat, applying a stick substance could reduce the ability of the material to settle in the bags. Sticky substances could also result in clogged equipment. Substances could be sprayed as material is layered into the sacks, and either bond the surface of the layer or soak into the material. EM50 has been approached to fund some mock-ups using surrogate materials. Doug suggested that any tests be video taped and suggested that a FCAB member be in attendance. The FCAB asked that the CAT make recommendations regarding pretreatment. Ray will provide more information regarding pretreatment options at the June FCAB meeting.

Build-Design Approach
FCAB members have also expressed concerns about bidding out parts of the projects for construction before the entire final design is completed. Ray explained that although he was not at the site during the design and construction of the vitrification pilot plant, he has been involved in discussions to learn from the mistakes made on that project. He reported that build-design is the common approach in the commercial world, and that the Silos project team has extensive experience using this approach. He also reported that, over the past 20 years, the government has started to see the benefits of this approach, which include improvements in cost, schedule, and quality. Ray explained that the key to success is to comply with logical construction sequences, identify packages that can be built, and account for all of the details through a constructability review process. Ray identified the key difference between the fast-tracked vitrification project and this approach is that there will be a single team working together closely as a consistent design authority.

FCAB members cautioned the Silos Team that there are many opportunities for pitfalls to occur, asked for continuous updates on progress, and indicated that the CAT should be kept in place throughout the process.

ROD and NRC License Modifications
Terry Hagen provided the group with an overview of current regulatory issues concerning the Silos projects.

Terry announced that the Record of Decision (ROD) would have to be amended to implement recent plans for Silo 3 materials, because proposed changes would eliminate treatment for RCRA metals. The site is working on a draft of this amendment, but a schedule has not been set until a decision is made on pretreatment. A definitive schedule is expected next month. The ROD for Silos 1 and 2 currently specifies disposal at NTS. The site would like to amend the ROD to allow disposal at NTS or a commercial facility, so Silos 1 and 2 wastes could be sent to Envirocare. This change could be made through an Explanation of Significant Difference (ESD), since it does not change the planned remedy. Although the site intended to include both of these changes in one document, the FCAB urged them to separate the two processes in order to eliminate delays of both projects if there was a problem with one. Terry agreed that the site would produce separate documents, but work on them concurrently.

Terry also explained silos issues related to NRC. Fernald would like to dispose of Silo 3 wastes in the 11(e)2 cell at Envirocare, but disposition of the Super Sacks would require a modification of Envirocare’s 11(e)2 NRC license. While there appears to be no technical problems with this, an administrative issue has arisen concerning the definition of 11(e)2 waste that was generated prior to 1978. If DOE and NRC cannot reach agreement that this material is appropriate for the 11(e)2 cell, Terry explained, it could be placed in Envirocare’s low-level waste cell. He also reported that for Silos 1 and 2 waste, Envirocare would need a modification to their Waste Acceptance Criteria (WAC) for radon. For political reasons, the State of Utah is reluctant to raise the radon WAC. Terry also reported that a group of Utahns are advocating an exponential increase in waste disposal fees. If these issues are not resolved, the most feasible option for disposal of Silos 1 and 2 wastes wold be NTS. Terry reported that DOE headquarters would pursue resolution of this issue.

Education Facility Design Charrette
Doug announced that the scheduled May 18 FCAB meeting would be replaced by the design charrette for a proposed multi-use education center. Doug reported that during its Thursday meeting, the Stewardship Committee met with the architects who will be conducting the May 18 charrette. All FCAB and Stewardship Committee members are urged to attend the charrette. The charrette will be held at the Crosby Township Senior Center, but it may begin at the FEMP site. Members will receive more information regarding where to meet that morning.

Recognition of Susan Brechbill
Tom Wagner suggested that the FCAB draft a letter of appreciation for Susan Brechbill’s commitment to and cooperation with the FCAB. The members agreed.


Public Comment
There were no comments offered by the public.
The meeting adjourned at 12:10 p.m.

 

I certify that these minutes are an accurate account of the
April 20, 2002 meeting of the Fernald Citizens Advisory Board.

James Bierer, Chair
Fernald Citizens Advisory Board

Gary Stegner, Public Affairs Officer
U.S. Department of Energy
Deputy Designated Federal Official